Let's be clear about my post and your's. I wrote about margin and an alternative, that to my thinking, is a better way to go. I did not address the ' Whinning " part. We have to be careful about how we interpret what someone writes. It sounded like whinning but???? I really do not care. Margin calls do not hurt in my opinion. Some disagree. That's fine with me. They do have a temorary effect, when the calls go out, to depress the stock. But if the fundamentals are right ( which with NOT I think they are ) it becomes a great time to bargain hunt. Smart investors keep some powder dry just for such occasions. I don't count myself in this class because I like NOT so much ( maybe too much ) that I have no dry powder. I'd like to know how R. N. feels from day to day. I'd like to be able to plug a wire into him and myself and feel what he really feels without having to imagine anything. After all these years of hunting for a mine, he has two back to back. If we are excited, just imagine how he feels. Like us he has to wait for the markets to catch on to this play. The fundamentals are right, it will just take time.