Ya all that and than a news release stating update and a whack load of options given out the next day before the stampede could comprehend the news release I got back in because I'm convinced the visuals were appealing enough the cores were sent out straight away without measuring intervals of the massives or taking down the details we all wanted to hear. It was more like we have a lot of core we know very well what we probably have let's not waste time send it to the lab!