I appreciate your points. It would be a good idea to put in a phone call to Wes and ask him what he knows about this company and why he thinks this group was a good group to sign off with. It could achieve one of two things: 1. Wes may be able to supply some credence to this group not supplied by the internet. 2. Reveal that Wes may not be up to speed on this group and therefore made an uninformed/steered decision or (from way out in left field) is involved in some foggy dealings should your allegations bear any merit...... but, we should also remember one Noront Resources company that required some of the retail folks to apply pressure to R.N. to do something about the less than satisfactory nature of their website to say nothing of getting connected with Agoracom. There have been many resource companies whose sites were last on the list of priorities until some inspiring events caused them to do a little work.