Some interesting postulations about value and news. I wish I had a better handle on the amount of manipulation, ( not the existence, that would be naive ) as I tend to support Vermillion . If there is is money to be had someone will be scheming to steal it and spending even a few million downgrading a stock to achieve a .5% reduction on a billion dollar resourse is not incomprehensible.

Ps: Vermillion, I believe I've seen you watching me come out of Grumblers he he