Thank you Hoov for these thoughts. Somehow I am ready to cut George and Paul some slack here. When these accusations first came to light I wondered what would come from all of this. I hoped we would not lose this forum. So I hoped there would be some reasonable answer. I expect there is but it still comes a bit tainted.

The point you make that the real value is the people who populate this forum, and a couple of sites in particcular. is the true value of Agoracom. Only yesterday I read on another forum criticizing Agoracom about censorship. That control is one of our core values because it has some compelling help to maintain a sense of decency among us. A good society must have some rules.

I am sure that this forum can move on from here to new and better relationships and trust.

Liz