Hey DVD, how is Holding Noront for years working out for you? I cannot imagine how frustrating it must be to see it this low! I will admit to pushing for Zen too hard and expected to get some push back but the flip side was not sharing what I believe is the next Great stock. My mistake was I should of posted once and walked away. This will be my last post about ZEN. If you wish to continue this conversation, pm me or bring it to the ZEN board. Good luck everyone, Glorieux