right on brutus, still too many rose colored glasses here, shock, lol,,,and where the hell is this board's biggest cheerleader babjack(whom I've met several times in person and happen to like, great woman), speaks volumes we haven't heard from her lately, sigh,,,

this play is dead in the swamp water for a long time imho,,,whomever can time many things(all overly discussed and disected here for years) coming together will still make a buck here,,,still strongly on my radar but weakly in my dreams,,,

and look at flying ZEN.V, mentioned here when still under a buck,,,still lots of opportunities to make/lose $$$ in these farked up (so called) markets,,,good luck to all longs,,,

realistic Shakey