Pls do not forget RCF. That's Not retail :-) hanging in. I think one needs to keep a real cool Head and iron stomic at this point. I think Russeau was the worst of all, "I'll short this thing to 10 cents". And he almost did. RCF's time will come :-) so will our. There is an important alternative for mothballing, and it is Smeenk who stayed creative when under pressure. Alan is next, see how he reacts with the breath of RCF in the neck. You are either in business or Not. Consider it lost ?, no way, RN and many here will never give up a worldclass deposit with much more in store. no change of management is what I seek, Not another puppet. Frank is the real deal. As for Coutts, it is almost mid-Year.