And Aves you know that Intel is the only company i know for that POET had some direct connections with when they came right out and chalanged Intels statement on Moore's law, pretty well shutting them up. Their might have been more communication with Intel at that time or just after that has been kept secret. It was back about maybe 7 or 8 months ago. I'll see if I can find it but it struck me as being strange that POET went face to face, toe to toe if you will, with some of the top scientists (Intel people) and lectured them on what was right and what was wrong,Moores Law. At least that was the way I percieved it at the time.