Well it is pretty hard to argue with any of that Abel00, the only thing I guess I would wonder about is the Apple connection in all this, there seems to be a lot of unanswered questions with Apple's connection, such as the TB and the TRAB, their stake in WaveTek/UMC, is Apple responsible for poet and WaveTek/UMC working together. I guess I just wonder this because there seems to be a lot of coincidences or perceived coincidences around the Apple connection and as usual with Apple we may not know until after the fact, if then. I seem to remember a couple of years ago a rumor of the fruit companies involvement, but as usual, it is hard to know.