True Rob. Try as I might, I am unable to produce a reference that definitively states Apple's buy-in of UMC. The articles that reference it, state as though it is fact then ask a question or state "rumour has it..." at the end. I stand corrected. Could I then change my request then to Rainer for a water mark line that doesn't show until you look at in the right light and angle? Regards. Derekwpg