The question is, are they making progress or not? Some are having doubts, can say they are closer to where they want to be on the optomizatiion. They will always be optomizing as the I-phone does.

At the same time there are other avenues to revenue to address such as the detector which is already a spectacular success. Detector Prototype should be forthcoming soon which has a lot of interest .The Denselight getting profitable near term.