I could not agree more Dave... Too many lies ,,liars and hype over the years.. I think a lot of people on this forum cannot stand to hear anything negative about PTK as they are so far in the red and they think anything negative might drop the share price even more and they are just hoping to get their money back or some of it...Just look at the positive hype that has been posted here over the years from from .60 cents all the way up to 2.87 per share and back down to .19 cents per share and how did that work out?? In the words my favorite pumper ET,, "think about it" .. I am still waiting for that 40 million dollar NRE myself .. LOL Gawd !!!