I've been thinking about that $4B/$8B remark. $8B on success seemed low to me...What do you think the odds are of him meaning a possible CVR type buyout? DM has mentioned CVR before as a preferrable option. $4B upfront for potential CVD/CKD and more based on milestones. Everybody wins, BP can develop it faster, Zenith gets money to focus on their stuff and us shareholders get an immediate payout with potential for more.