Toinv,,,,,its in one of them. Scoffing ...you imagine,,,,and us hitting our lows experienced the past 5 years,,,,its embarrassing at best,,more,,,shameful than anything else,,,,and the BoD are absolutley not one level better. One is forced to record the names of these BoD who have seats. Cuz you want to make sure you never wager a red cent on any company they are involved in, in the future.!