i don't know, seeing the quarterly results on friday ruined my weekend, producing 2000 ounces a quarter is nothing, i think there are more production problems or issues than we know, 6 months ago Q3 was a quarter that was to show improvement, now Q4 would make or break the company but your right Andyk, it might be Q1, I hope you are right about the grades but something is not adding up here, with there burn rate and lack of production, time is not on our side, us cogs in the wheel will be the last to know if Q1 is on target and then it may be to late. Trying to keep the faith!