Bouts, I appreciate many of the things you and others write however cheerleading a management team that is performing subpar is completely inappropriate. I hold almost 3 million shares of both companies for similar reasons that Pic states for owning his shares, but I believe some of the insiders you cheer are possibly following a dual track - purchasing shares while also buying convertible debt which would protect them somewhat or even enable them to gain spectacularly in the event company failure. Also as Pic has expressed, I have similar feelings and a bad taste in my mouth about some of the management practices (i.e. gross stock option awards) because some folks I've brought into this venture, being smaller players, maybe cannot afford to at least emotionally take the TOTAL LOSS should one occur. I will certainly be happy to eat my words and enjoy the rewards of success if and when they occur, but I will not frivolously cheerlead a management team when it is not deserved. That being said, being realistic and open-minded will better enable me to accept the TOTAL LOSS should the venture fail. I certainly hope this venture does not fail, but can you accept that outcome should it occur? CIGA Khaki