You know, one way of increasing the value of our holdings right now would be for all of the retails to buy more shares. Some of these would come from other retails, but this would have the effect of moving shares from weak hands into stronger. Some of these would come from institutions - it's possible that certain companies are using electronic trading algorithms and we can nibble away at the share bases they are using to play the game. This wouldn't have a major impact on the share price, but it is probably a safe bet on the purchasers' part, because Cliffs unquestionably wants these companies. And it would send a clear message to Cliffs that retails aren't interested in giving up easily (although I'm sure they realize that already from reading these boards).