funny how one of Hoov's first order of business as a hub-leader here was to "ban" his buddy, turned enemy, turned buddy, turned enemy, turned buddy again Chief, now Hoov finds himself ousted.

People did much desire to have Hoov on board, but times and tones have definitely changed.

Hoov has dissapeared from here and has even stated he does not want to come back here.

This whole CCB-ZEN thing has gotten blown way out of proportio, and it has definitely strained relationships and tone of posts regarding the companies as users have seemingly taken their sides.

From what i have read recently, Hoov has felt the need to dig his feet in the ground and defend his interest in CCB from seemingly uneccesary ZEN user attacks.

Shame, because all of this bad CCB sentiment can easily be linked back to when the Chief abandoned ZEN for CCB starting in December 2013. Like it or not, the negative sentiment has followed him over to CCB, and unfortunately it has cost us some great insight in Hoov.

As glorieux said, much respect for Hoov, but with his activity here ceasing and an underlying biased tone in his posts these days, it is best to avoid any further drama and remove him as a hub leader.

Again, no slight intended towards Hoov, i believe it is human nature that after repetitive attacks towards ones interests/property, one must feel the need to take a stand, as such a biased tone has crept in.

Best of luck in CCB and your future endeavours Hoov.