I hear your point of view and have hear pretty much the same point of view from you several times. I keep asking myself however, so what? There could be a range of bad outcome some way beyond the control of anyone including ZEN mgmt. But so what, that is true of any stock. There could always be unforeseen bad outcomes. My guess is that most people feel that way about most of thier equity investments, they just don't feel any of them besides ZEN have the potential to go up 5 or 10 fold or more. Yea that may be wishful thinking, but it is wishful thinking based on DD, supported by scientific information and the actions by qualified individuals such at Dr. Chahar, Mr. Stowe and Mr. Yamishita. Most people who have had long and distinguished careers in their chosen field do not need to work or at least do not need full time are very active work at their stage in life. So why do all three of them join a junior minor, especially since two individuals are not even miners? I guess they know a lot more that you or I and have a deep insight into their choosen field that led them to solicit a junior miner from Thunder Bay who just happens to have discovered a unique and previously unknown type of mineral which has wide and growing use in high tech and other industries. Thats good enough for me to confrim my own DD. Will I get as much as I think I might from this investment? If I know that I would not need to invest, I would just pick winning lottery tickets....Happy with my ZEN investment.

TP