You exemplify exactly what I'm talking about: people who look at a narrow set of variables on which to base their bias.

People who look at a narrow set of variables on which to base their bias? if i'm biased, why do i need any variables at all? i'm sure of what zen has. i'm sure it's going higher, i'm just not sure of how much.

you can call it 'bias' if you want. i don't care. all you do is find things to worry about. worry away.

The distinction in my use of wording is not a matter of who has how many shares,

that's not what i said.

and as I stated I'm all in,

maybe you are, but i don't believe you.

but in the different way they might view and handle their shares in comparison to myself.

you don't sound like you own any shares. ever since your fist post on zen you've been cautioning everyone. cautioning everyone is ok, but why would you own shares that you're cautioning people about? it just doesn't make any sense for a shareholder to say these things.

a long time ago someone that wasn't just bashing was cautioning on a stock i was long on. i eventually sold and because of that he saved me a lot of money. and i thanked him publically and privately because he didn't have a dog in the fight. he didn't pretend he owned any shares.

believe me, i'm not against people bring up genuine problems with a stock i own. but the problems people like sulfur bob on stockhouse brings up aren't genuine. his agenda is to scare people off zen. i'm not sure why he's doing it, but it doesn't matter. whatever his motives are, he's wrong to do it. same with the others that i won't mention.

So if you are truly open minded as opposed to fearful of an opposing idea,

i was open minded when i was investigating zen. you haven't said anything that i haven't already heard or considered. possibly my understanding of zen allows me to sleep better than you at night. that is if you own shares.