Agree Bill, but I keep remembering they have survived since 1988 and were never dept free until announced at the 2009 SHM in Nov. Some how some way, they have squeaked by.

Got help from a few along the way also who have been repaid...maybe these types will step forward again if need be?

Since we have seen 7 of 11 new patents filed to the USPTO, seems off the ground already, yet the site not launched.

Dr Pat to lead the Inno Grp...OK...lets do it.