jefother, you are well reguarded in my book. If someone doesn't object to your comments every once in a while, well, it would just mean your are not being listened to by others. I appreciate you commentary over these many years. I see you have been a member since Aug.22, 2007. I would say that amount of time and your other contributions makes you a long like many of us, so I can't doubt your sincere intentions. Thanks for participating.