Oh no Mr. Bill (Jr). Not another Bill. This board can't take two. But wait--- somehow we ended up with two Gibby's. (The original Gibbster and more recently-- Mooner). This must be God's way of fulfilling that axiom of physics "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction". In this case "Two negatives can be offset by two positives"! Welcome to the Message Board Mr. Bill JR. You are waaaay overdue. Contact Sports! I still own,and proudly wear my "Contact SHORTS" every summer. They are indestructible and tenacious----"Kinda" like Frank (Drohan AND Sinatra) and Charlie (The "K" not Tuna). ... Bill (SR).