Iced, That "now" statement by Lori is of major importance IMO. The pudding is just about ready and soon to be served to us, on a golden platter (made from gold from Tesoro), that have hung in. It's easy for people to write that we are all fools and there is no gold or very little at Tesoro. Has anyone offered proof of that? Everything I've read proves we have a huge find. Only time will tell. Just a little longer......everyone please hang in for the future results. I just love golden pudding! JW