I do not think we actually have factual evidence that TECK is now using NPV either. I asked TECK, over a year ago, if they were using NPV or ROV to value their possible acquisitions and I was told in no uncertain terms that that is none of my business.

On the sinking Loonie, I was just told by my financial adviser at Nesbitt Burns that they expect the Loonie to continue it's downward spiral into 2015. They think it's going to slide to mid $0.70 You can take that with grain of salt I guess, but....