No Problem Art there has been some good discussion on here today, this is what a forum is for people way in on different thoughts with different expertise so to say. Some things I may not be the strongest on language and spelling for example but I do own what i believe a successful buisness(by successful I have been doing it and making a decent living with for 15 years) I do know some things stated here need to be challenged otherwise they turn into "fact" and they start to get thrown around here as I would really like to know where Cbew came up with this info I know Cbew has been here for many many years and appreciate his contributions as well.