That's been the narrative since I started reading this discussion forum back in 2011... We are always waiting for the next up cycle in copper prices for higher valuations. Chatter started around May of this year that ES is promising a monetization event by year end or 1st qtr 24...now it's EE is waiting for a valuation price of $6 copper...seems like Copper Fox is turning into a retirement fund for the insiders grandchildren ( if it has'nt always been )