I don't know much about either other than what can be read in articles and interviews, but with that in mind, I'd agree. And to wolf and others concerned about the BOD, realize, that Turley has been in place 6 months, and has added to the BOD with the likes of Tredennick, so he is working to change the BOD. These things take time. The BOD is elected by the likes of you and me with terms of service, so if we don't want them, don't vote for them. We can't just complain them away.