wolf your attitude is right. if if tpl and moore continue to be our partners then we will probably have to make concessions. my dealings with individuals like dl, they are greedy always taking something they think is already there own. if we are willing to make concessions and it is ptsc management decision. it might be as simple as giving away ptsc performance stock again, does that sound ugly. it is? this is getting old i am getting old, and tired of all the incompetence. giving something to dl that does not belong to him but incentive to go back to work and getting the stock up to where i break even again.

i am not suggesting on my own to do this but sometimes it's the simple things that work or do you think tpl is going to go away maybe in a couple years, when will it go to court 2012 just thinking what would it take