Seems we have a new crew of hard nosed intelligent posters to help us along. Seeing as I have not welcomed anyone for a few months + as there are so many new posters coming and going, may I say "Welcome!!!" to all broad minded, critical, informed, experienced, posters. I desire to learn at all times and you are helping in that regard. Old Joe PS: Drivelers take note and strain your pea brains. Agoracom is challenged but who cares!