I've have to ask. I realize I will more than likely not get a satisfactory answer. I am a member of a favourite club here. That does not mean that the powers that be will allow the sp to reach that or any other fact based estimations of what PTK is worth. The p2.0 will give a great indication. I wonder though, when it comes to voting for a possible offer, what the reality will be. Shoot for the stars and reach the moon. Off to work. Later all. Derek