Excellent post Spiny. I also echo your sentiments on Pic that he does put a lot of great effort out here and deserves much respect.

What you are talking about is trust. I got shafted by a large furnace co. once because they lied about the condition of my relatively newer one during a 'service' call and I had them replace it because it was winter and who has time to shop around? It later was revealed that the Co. had bilked thousands of people in the same way (in a TV investigation journalist expose).

They tried hard to get my business (and thouands of others) back for annual servicing etc. I never want them near my house. They have changed their name twice over the last 6 years. They have paid dearly because they lost trust.

I'm not expecting much from that tiny income stream re milling contracts. Diversionary tactics don't cut it. It won't impact the stock price. They need real meat as you know. Fluff days are long gone. As for the 'Casino' project, I am very wary because that market is saturated and real incomes are down from 1989 and personal/household debt is now staggering (there is much inflation in S.A.). The diluted share base all have wondered aloud about here is a huge shadow hanging over this most dubious management. It's pretty clear that a roll back is coming (modus operendi 'Q' maximus over a lifetime). How it favours mangement and penalizes shareholders remains to unfold.

The real BIG problem is that the management has long since lost the trust of the shareholders and whatever market visibility SFMI had. They will have to overshoot expectations for any real impact now. Once trust is lost by any individual or company, it takes a gargantuan effort just to steady the ship. Who trusts the 'Q's'. NOT ME! The reality is a very sad one. Only substantial concrete results, as you have delineated, will bring new investors in.

I'm not trying to rain on whatever ragged parade is shuffling along out there carrying placards of hope. I was amongst them for a long time. The most infuriating aspect of this debacle is that there is real gold and silver in rich veins coursing through War Eagle Mountain. What a terrible shame that such an incredible resource opportunity has been so wastefully mismanaged and many times, totally disingenuous towards so many well meaning shareholders. If ever we needed a lesson on 'time iis money', this was it. Or, was that THE PLAN all along? I will wager that management will profit/has profited very well in the end. How much profit has been realized to date is a total mystery to me. The complexities of this adventure have been a maze of opaque maneuvers that would confuse Bernie Madoff.

Will it 'rebirth'? Some say 'yes', some say 'no'; some say 'stop', some say 'go'; some say 'don't go'. Only John knows. I'm hoping for the best for all investors. But if the 'Q's are still in, sorry, it's not gonna be fun.