Joe The company has offred very little. We are investors we have the right to know what we are investing in. Not every jot and titel. But something a little than what we have been getting. Fred has been a little to closed mouth. There are those of us that have hung on for years and have been treated rather poorly if I say so myself. What we get is what anyone can get and they don't have to invest a dime. Fred is an investor justy like we are. Yes he is privy to much information where he is limited in what he can say. The question of the settlements and the amounts that should be forth coming and not wait when he has to tell us. That he is a nice guy and can be talked to when you meet him face to face is great. Buit this hush hush can't tell thing is what most have complaigned about including me. I hope this next meeting is not more of the same. Then all it will be is B.S.