OILMAN, you are stating the obvious. I'm sure most investers know that the price of a stock is determined by buyers an sellers---whether they are long or short. What normally (let's put emotion,the old herd mentality and panic to the side for the time being) will move a stock up is profits or anticipation of potential for profits of a company . However if that was all, it would be a bit mundane. It's when you add those items I asked "to put on the side for the time being" that makes an investor's greed really shine. Yup, ypu gotta have someone ready willing and able to drive the price up--and actually pay that higher price--before it moves. Hopefully the news items I pointed out in my last post will be forthcoming. Then those "greedy" buyers will appear at our doorstep, Bill.