I agree with you powersurge. I am appalled by the blatant character attacks on management in this forum. Am I jumping for joy on the share price no but some of the comments over the last 7 days are a cause for shame to be associated with this board. I guess the key clue for me is that they never report what they learned in calls with Elmer, Mike, etc. Probably because they have never called Elmer. It makes me curious as to their ulterior motivations in saying these things. SF