I try to approach all this stuff from a logical point of view. Al you created this board to run from the permabulls of NOT now you are headed to tradingchief, if it is free what makes you think the permabulls won't go there? Al the following you have will follow as they like your opinions and put lets face it those who think you represent a particular position will all ways point that out. Some times it will be rational logical discussions, some times it will sound rude and obnoxious.