Sedley, this is as condensed as I can make it in a 2 way conversation.

He is opposed to the Newsletter partially as a result of what happened when David Pohl tried to do one and it blew up in his face and ended up causing more problems than it solved. They will continue to use PR newswire when there is actual news.

getting more input from Mistry and Schrock especially on PDSG. He said I was probably expecting too much from board members in that look at any other board in the country and what do they produce. He went on to say that the money going into PDSG had to be limited. I said because they have no contracts yet. He agreed...... working with Baroni and time will tell if things are going to work out.

It is hoped that they will get back to licensing and this is and will be a major source of revenue. From Mr. Flowers perspective, if we can get back to a good licensing revenue stream then we could look at consistent dividends from the portfolio. Mr Flowers agreed that this could set PTSC apart from all OTC Securities which would be both a marketing tool and an SP appreciator.

His idea is to grow a constant revenue stream that will produce dividends in the future.