Thanks Virt..............Mr Otteson still has some work to do for Dan, but he knows that the MMP is a wale and he is not interested in pleasing guppies...............He is there to protect us / PTSC and his desire is to take the MMP to the next level............He did say that a winning hand does not guarantee victory, but he likes our chances........I liked his personality and he mentioned that you never piss off a judge................................Since I am old enough to remember watching SB 3 , I say give GENO the damm ball..............