It was n othing that you said but what was conveyed by a host of comments. As an old cad player i just don't like revealing what I might have in my hand. I'm all for going for broke with the markman and hope that we did not assist them in any way for them to avoid whats comming to them. I personally want to bury them though that is not the conscenses of most on this board. I've been waiting for 11 years. Thats a long time to have my money laid up bu a bunch of thieves. I want the big payoff and if markman is the way to get it then so be it.