On this board it has long been said that Nunchi is so complex and wide ranging that it is difficult to define and that Micro Signet was very simple and straight forward. The above definition of MS seems very clear and straight forward to even me. Maybe, as I said in a recent post, this is what Fred had in mind when he said he would "consider" sharing some information regarding Micro Signet with the share holders. First step innovate, second step get paid.