Dear ORCORR;

I too am all for staying on topic; still, as Bernanos said back in '46, "Between those who think that civilization is a victory for man in the struggle against the determinatism of things...and those who want to make of man a thing among things there is no possible scheme of reconciliation."...in other words " moderation" please (!!!)...a little humility and humane-ness can't hurt...tolerance is a good thing!... and I do not mean pathological tolerance!