I have been around to see bits of those previous discussions but have been seeing new names on the forum of late who likely have not. I haven't locked in to an exit point but have considered what many points would mean. I prefer the philosophy of making the best decision on investments on any given day considering long and short term issues. I have always felt that it is at best 50/50 wether the tech gets developed under company or bought out. To me it is all about how big is the first splash into the market. I beleive that is why they are waiting to have that splash be the AOC rather than marketing the detectors or VCSEL separately.