Your thoughts have been said by others too, and it confuses me.

I agree a jury has never handed down a ruling and chances are we will never see a trial IMO, but what about this?

• All 5 patents were issued by the USPTO.
• 774 & 737 were challanged by re-exam, some claims were edited/replaced then reaffirmed.
• 108 had 12 claims agreed to by a judge, saying it was a completly separate patent than 774. The 2 parties presented their info on a Fri, and on Mon the decision was handed down.
• 69 companies have paid the piper to date and licensed the patents.

I guess it's semantics, but to me the patents are valid whether a jury agrees to it or not.

I understand what you are saying, but to me that's a moot point.